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Friday, May 26, 2006

Bread slice sandwiches in an outrageous amendment

Sen. Chris "Bread Slice" Dodd has sandwiched in an amendment to the immigration bill requiring the US to consult with Mexico before building a fence. Here is the amendment:
(b) CONSULTATION REQUIREMENT.--Consultations between United States and Mexican authorities at the federal, state, and local levels concerning the construction of additional fencing and related border security structures along the United States-Mexico border shall be undertaken prior to commencing any new construction, in order to solicit the views of affected communities, lessen tensions and foster greater understanding and stronger cooperation on this and other important issues of mutual concern.
At worst this amendment sabotages the construction of the fence. At best this solicitation of views will no doubt go on endlessly making the actual construction unlikely in our lifetime. This amendment was in a managers package submitted by Arlen Specter. So we can thank Bread Slice and the Mother of All RINOs for this farce. We can also thank the following GOP Senators for aiding and abetting:

Republicans who voted for the Mexican consultation requirement:

Bennett, Bond, Brownback, Chafee, Coleman, Collins, Craig, Graham, Hagel, Lugar, Collins, McCain, Specter, Stevens, Warner, Martinez, Murkowski, Snowe and Voinovich

We can also note one Democrat that stood up for his country and voted against it: Lincoln.

Hat tip to Lou Dobbs for breaking this and Michelle Malkin for posting on it.


  • At 12:07 PM, Blogger Joe Smoe: American Citizen said…

    I was watching Dobbs when he broke this and was totally Dumbfounded and then I GOT P***ED!!! Who the hell do these corporate Whores/Turncoats think they are selling the interests of the average taxpaying AMERICAN CITIZEN out to a foreign power???? This is TREASON!!!!

    When the hell are the American people, Republican and Democrat, gonna wake up and believe that America is being turned into a SERFDOM ran by the corporations?????

  • At 2:01 AM, Blogger FKAB said…

    Americans building a fence to keep away the big bad Mexicans...

    Sounds like the Berlin Wall to me.

  • At 9:46 AM, Blogger Malott said…


    I've seen estimates that if this bill makes it out of committee that it will cost us 54 billion dollars in the next decade.

    I have nothing against Mexicans, but I don't want to pay for them.

    You do?

  • At 10:32 AM, Anonymous r2w said…


    The Berlin Wall was not erected to stop the in-flow of people involved in illegal activity. It was erected so that the communists could keep their own people prisoners because they knew people would leave in droves if given the choice between freedom and communist rule. If you put a fence up around your property, are you in the same boat with the communists in Berlin? The only similarity between the Berlin Wall and the current proposition for the Mexican border is the word WALL. With your line of reasoning, Pink Floyd and China are synonymous.

  • At 11:17 AM, Blogger All_I_Can_Stands said…

    blasphemer, welcome to my blog. I failed to mention that on my first post. All are welcome to disagree here.

    malott makes a great point that we deal with enforcement now or pay later. I support the wall or fence or whatever physical barrier will mitigate the flow of illegals. I also like others including Joe think they should heavily penalize employers that hire illegals.

    r2w, you had a fantastic response on the wall. I have answered this question before, but was going to respond again. I saw your response and could not have improved or added if I tried.

  • At 2:15 PM, Blogger Housewife4Palestine 4 بيت فلسطين said…

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  • At 2:16 PM, Blogger Housewife4Palestine 4 بيت فلسطين said…

    The wall reminds me of the one the Israeli’s are building and I wonder how the American’s are going to pay another 54 billion dollars for anything, since they are in debt so deep now it will take several generations or ever to pay back what they owe now?

    I always have wondered how governments get slapped, when they do not pay their bills; file bankruptcy?

  • At 9:20 PM, Anonymous r2w said…


    Good point. I personally was never all that impressed with the idea of the wall, and one reason had to do with the expense. It's not that I am opposed to spending money to insure security. But I believe that if we just started enforcing the laws that are already on the books, further expensive measures would be unnecessary. Immediate deportation combined with very stiff penalties for employers that hire illegals would be a great start. I'm tired of the blow-hards claiming that it's impossible or impracticle to deport the millions of illegals who are already here. Where there's a will, there's a way. I think it is very impracticle to build a wall along the entire border.

  • At 12:38 AM, Blogger FKAB said…

    Regardless of your reasons, building a wall on the Mexico/US border makes you Americans look all the more despotic.

    I live in an island nation, and the wall that separates Australia from out closest neighbour Indonesia is a vast stretch of water. And yet, even with this liquid wall, coupled with the extensive security measures undertaken by the Australian Customs Office, many desperate Indonesians manage to land on our soil.

    My point is: if the Torres Strait isn't enough to keep out the pesky illegals, what makes you Americans think a wall will solve the problem?

  • At 1:05 AM, Blogger All_I_Can_Stands said…

    more despotic

    No such thing as zero despotic becoming "more despotic". Claims of US despotism or imperialism are made up figments of the imagination in elite liberal acadamia.

    You do make a good point about your Indonesia people making it to Australia across the Ocean. I do not claim that a wall will solve all problems. A beefed up enforcement approach includes a wall to help minimize the flow. Right now we are leaking like a sieve. There will always be some, but if we cut 95% of the flow, I would be satisfied. That kind of reduction cannot be done without a wall and several other steps including enforcing laws and policies already on the books.

  • At 9:27 AM, Blogger Housewife4Palestine 4 بيت فلسطين said…

    R2W thank you and I agree with you also. I think the American’s building a wall may very well get themselves in a mess just like what is happening in Palestine. You are going to have a very angry country to the South and if you American’s look back into your history you will realize the Mexican people are not people to trifle with. I have not seen any real diplomacy between the American government and the Mexican Government over this problem.

    I to believe the American’s should exercise their laws and I think their should be more of a logical solution than acting like the Israeli government and making nothing but enemies; further more the American government can not afford to keep spending money they really do not have.

    I know for a fact there is American’s that are suffering hardships there and a country that once was so rich in resources to be falling in such economic quick sand is sad. If you American’s do anything reestablish what you your country really was about, enforce your laws and hopefully you will be a good country again not one these days that is detested by most of the world.

    America use to believe in religious freedom, regulating immigration with enforcement of laws and yet wish for the tired hungry and poor like your Statue of Liberty says. Before you can keep slinging your hammer at other people you need to fix the problems in your own country and many people in the world think America has many big internal problems.

    Also, to keep spending money your country doesn’t really have will continue to destroy your country. I heard an American lady say not long ago, that the America she knew as a young woman is not the country you have now and it actually hurt her heart. Just a word of advice if you do not regroup your resources America could very well slip to being a third or fourth world country.

  • At 7:44 PM, Blogger FKAB said…

    America not despotic? Last I heard that President of yours was spying on telephone conversations of regular American citizens.

    I'm getting an odd sensation of deja vu ... *cough George Orwell's '1984'*

  • At 9:48 PM, Blogger All_I_Can_Stands said…

    Last I heard that President of yours was spying on telephone conversations of regular American citizens.

    I keep hearing this strange clicking noise when I am talking on the phone with Aunt Petunia.

  • At 8:47 AM, Anonymous r2w said…


    And so-called journalists just keep going about their business trying to destroy Bush. They are obviously effective when, on the other side of the world, people are believing their drivel about Bush spying on ordinary American citizens. The FACT is that the government is monitoring known al-Quaeda affiliates. If you want to consider these ordinary Americans, fine. But they are not; they are traitors and enemies of the State.


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