The Logic Lifeline

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Saturday, March 25, 2006

This immigration thing needs a heaping dose of logic

Whenever this illegal immigration issue is discussed, I usually end up with a headache at the complete absence of reason and logic on the side of those supporting illegal immigrants. Sometimes when you are talking with your kids about something as the discussion goes back and forth you begin to realize one thing: they don't have one good point on why you should say 'yes', you have many points on why you should say 'no' but they just WANT IT. You start to go through the process clearly and logically and they begin to get animated, their eyes bug out, they start saying things that make no sense at all. They just want you to accept their side without making the case. It is the exact same thing with the illegal immigration issue. Here are some quotes:
"I think it's just inhumane. ... Everybody deserves the right to a better life," Aloy said of the legislation.
"They're here for the American Dream," said Malissa Greer, 29, who joined a crowd estimated by police to be at least 10,000 strong. "God created all of us. He's not a God of the United States, he's a God of the world."
Just reading that starts my head aching. Notice the words all and everybody. Logically, do they think that we can accept everybody into the US? Whether or not they do, we can't. So here is the logical slo-mo:

- We can't accept all people into the US who want to come
- That means we need to accept only a portion of those who want to come
- That means it is not fair to accept disproportionate numbers from a single country
- That means the only way to ensure that too many people do not come at once and ensure the number of people to come in is fairly distributed will take a regulated and structured mechanism.
- That regulated and structured mechanism is called immigration laws
- If immigration laws are bypassed we cannot meet the goals of limited entry and fair distrubution
- If immigration laws are only on paper and not enforced gain we cannot meet the mentioned goals
- The bottom line is that enforced immigration laws are the only way to attain our goals

The United States of America is without a doubt the greatest country on earth. I am very grateful that I was born here and have been able to avail myself of the opportunities she has to offer. I wish everybody could come, but if they did this country would cease to be what all are wishing they had. I do not blame others for wanting to come here. I don't even blame them for trying to come illegally. I do blame those who are here that do not stand up to this problem. If we do not find a way to stop the flood of illegal immigration, we will cease to be great. The US became great and has continued to be great due to carefully regulated immigration. By bringing in a mixture of people of different origins and ethnicities, we retained the great melting pot. Today, some immigrants are refusing to melt and that challenges the foundations of what made the USA great.

The protesters are wrong because they are simply demanding what they want with no logical arguments to support it. In addition to the undermining of what makes this country great, illegal immigration is a threat to our national security. I think the only solution is a wall or portions of a wall along both borders. The demonstrations are simply a temper tantrum. Will the media call them on it? They have not so far.


  • At 9:18 PM, Blogger LASunsett said…

    The demonstrations are simply a temper tantrum. Will the media call them on it? They have not so far.

    The media is on their side. They portray it as unfair and unjust. But call them on the temper tantrum? Don't hold your breath or you will die of hypoxia..

  • At 9:46 PM, Blogger starbender said…

    I agree with lasunsett! The U.S. does NOT seem 2 b interested in controlling R borders, or they would have done it on Sept. 12, 2001!!! It has been 6 yrs., and the illegals are coming by the THOUSANDS into R nation! For instance-We know 4 a fact that a Major Head of AlQuida is attending Yale University! If he is on a terrorist watch list--why is he here??? We as Americans need 2 WAKE-UP! These illegals who R not interested in blending--ARE HERE 2 DO US HARM!!! I am tired of all of the AMERICANS who believe these people all have rights in the U.S.A.!!!!!

  • At 9:42 AM, Blogger Malott said…

    Your 8 logic facts were great.
    Send them to Washington.

  • At 9:55 AM, Blogger All_I_Can_Stands said…

    Thanks to all. Welcome starbender, I think this is your first comment here. The illegal situation will harm us whether purposeful or not. Millions coming here illegally means there are millions who only want to take and not give. This means that there are millions here that are not promoting the American dream, which endangers the American dream. It would be the same if millions came from communist China. They do not share the same philosophy and they would come and not melt. It is the melting that is critical. It is amazing that the media is on the side of the illegals. This means once again that the media hates the capitalist philosophy of the US and glories in seeing a real threat to its survival. The illegal situation is basically no more than a hostile takeover. It may take 25-30 years, but it will happen.

    Thanks Chris. Washington does not understand logic I don't think. Oh, I meant to give you a hat tip on the quote from Melissa and forgot. Sorry about that.

  • At 6:53 PM, Blogger Joe Smoe: American Citizen said…

    "In the first place, we should insist that if the immigrant who comes here in good faith becomes an American and assimilates himself to us, he shall be treated on an exact equality with everyone else, for it is an outrage to discriminate against any such man because of creed, or birthplace, or origin. But this is predicated upon the person's becoming in every facet an American, and nothing but an American...There can be no divided allegiance here. Any man who says he is an American, but something else also, isn't an American at all. We have room for but one flag, the American flag... We have room for but one language here, and that is the English language... and we have room for but one sole loyalty and that is a loyalty to the American people."

    Theodore Roosevelt 1907

    The preceding quote sums it all up for me.

    If you want to come to this country do it like all the rest of our ancestors did.

    Also if you come to America speak English and owe no allegiance to anyone else. I see a lot of Mexican flags at those rallies. If you disagree get OUT!!!

    Under this administration the American worker and Middle class is under assault!!!! With the off shoring of MILLIONS of jobs and the huge tide coming from across the border to take LEGAL Americans jobs and depress their wages Bush and the GOP refuse to do anything about it. They have tacitly allowed this crisis to fester for the past 6 years

    This administration that wants to outsource our security to Foreign govts will do nothing about this as the Corporations hold their leash and the average stooge that voted for these guys has been conned. But now they are waking up, but it maybe to late.

    Also, don’t expect anything from the Dems as they will look at this as a way to get the Latino vote that the GOP is losing. The ones that will truly lose this on this issue in the end will be Joe Six Pack Working American.

    We as a nation are reaching the point of Global Feudalism were the Super Rich and the Corporations call all the shots

    I guess I'm not as Left Leaning as you thought??

  • At 8:24 PM, Blogger All_I_Can_Stands said…

    "I guess I'm not as Left Leaning as you thought??"

    I guess not! We seem to be very close in how we view this one.

  • At 10:16 PM, Blogger LASunsett said…

    I guess I'm not as Left Leaning as you thought??

    Now, if only you were a UCLA fan, there would be some hope. ;)


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