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Monday, March 26, 2007

Boortz Has Some on the Left Pegged

An interesting quote in Nealz Nuze today:
Liberals love to paint conservatives as being ignorant, stupid, obtuse, mindless, irrational and, on occasion, retarded. For the most part leftists use this "stupid" tactic in order to avoid actually having to intellectually engage with someone who thinks differently than they. After all ... you really don't have to consider the opinions offered by someone who disagrees with you if you can successfully and falsely brand them as ignorant.
I think he has been reading some comments here and other blogs I frequent. Hmmm.

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14 Comments:

  • At 2:07 PM, Blogger SkyePuppy said…

    Your post title has it exactly right: Some on the left. Not all.

    A person's gotta be "ignorant, stupid, obtuse, mindless, irrational and, on occasion, retarded" to believe that just because someone else doesn't see things his way, that someone else is "ignorant, stupid, obtuse, mindless, irrational and, on occasion, retarded."

     
  • At 2:18 PM, Blogger All_I_Can_Stands said…

    SP,

    The 'some' was put there just for that reason.

     
  • At 4:57 PM, Blogger All_I_Can_Stands said…

    Actually, I think that you are scared little puppies reeling from shadows.

    Just what would I be afraid of? Do you ever make sense. If I were putting money on it I would have to bet you either are a college student or a college professor. Everything you say smacks of Academia. I'm sure you will take that as a complement, but my experience is that there is a great gulf fixed between academia and reality - whether it be political thought or other studies. Additionally, there is such a hefty portion of arrogance that blinds them to their self-illusion.

     
  • At 5:41 PM, Blogger All_I_Can_Stands said…

    Are you making a point with the Fisk and Coburn comments or just dumping bytes?

     
  • At 5:46 PM, Blogger All_I_Can_Stands said…

    You're terrified of the great islamic global domination theory aren't you?

    Not particularly. I believe it can be successfully prevented, so I am advocating preventative steps. You chide me for my guesses at your background, yet you have no problem making guesses at my emotions. It is so funny how many times you accuse me of things and then do them or something similar yourself.

     
  • At 8:05 PM, Blogger All_I_Can_Stands said…

    I left university 24 years ago and I am as far removed from your caricature "leftist" as it is possible to be.

    I don't think those "leftists" actually exist anyway except in the minds of the strawman builders of the extremist democracy haters like you.


    A good start. What do you do for a living. If you have not seen a discussion of my job, I am an IT Sr. Project Manager for a large corporation. I don't know who the dude in your icon is. Is it you by any chance? To be fair, the guy in my icon is not me.

    It is quite common when arguing with those different from me politically that there is always the long drawn out process of defining terms. Where are you politically and how would YOU describe your leanings since you think I have failed miserably at it.

    By the way, I would consider communism to be far left. Some try to make it far right. I doubt if we will come to an agreement on what is left and what is right.

    As for your food for thought, I tasted it and found it to be lacking in flavor. Anything in particular you want me to glean from it?

     
  • At 9:50 PM, Blogger All_I_Can_Stands said…

    CF,

    No lie or BS, I appreciate your taking the time to write this. That is cool that you are/were an economist. Give me some time to digest this as it is late here and my wife and I are about to watch something.

    While I have heard economists I agree with and economists I disagree with, I never had a personal discussion with one. I may have some questions for you.

    In parting for the night, if I tone down my rhetoric, I hope you will tone yours down. Things always take a nasty turn when I meet a new blog acquaintance to the left of me. I have high doubts we will come much closer in agreement but I think I can learn a lot from you.

    Puff, puff. Peace pipe coming your way...

     
  • At 11:25 PM, Blogger All_I_Can_Stands said…

    Ok, my show is over and I have time for a quick note before bed.

    I have politics in the blood but I've grown entirely disenchanted. I have only contempt left for the whole process.

    I am nearly at that point. I am disgusted with both parties. I don't feel good when the GOP gets in office because I think they will do something great or even close to what I want. I feel good because they beat the Dems whom I view as worse.

    You're still not going to like what I have to say about US foreign policy either.

    I can deal with that. My first question. I read what you said about the US economy being theft on a grand scale. I did not understand it at all. Can you break it down into simpler terms. Such a concept intrigues me.

     
  • At 4:00 PM, Blogger All_I_Can_Stands said…

    Thanks CF. It will take me at least a day to digest it.

     
  • At 10:38 PM, Blogger Jacob said…

    Well der, AICS. When some nut tries to tell you that homophobia isn't a problem when homosexuals are hidden from sight, of COURSE you're not going to argue with them.

    Some things are just too stupid to repond to, that's all.

     
  • At 4:25 PM, Blogger All_I_Can_Stands said…

    Jacob,

    I don't know what the heck you are talking about.

    CF,

    I am still chewing on your comments. I think it will take me a bit.

    For now I think the things we can agree on are that the Dems and GOP are both bad and harmful to this country. I tend to see the GOP the lesser of the two evils, but they are and have both been evil to a degree.

    I think the huge deficits and debt that the US has racked up is cause for great concern and is high on my list. Knowing how much tax revenue comes in, though I do not see more revenue through tax hikes to be the key. The spending must come in check. We will disagree on the wars, but there is a lot of room for cutting in the social and corporate welfare that happens.

    I am once again revisiting some issues based on your comments. If I do not end up agreeing with you, I will at least be better informed than I am now.

    Thanks for taking the time to bring up the issues.

     
  • At 9:45 AM, Blogger All_I_Can_Stands said…

    CF,

    The ONE good thing that I will admit Clinton did was to sign the welfare reform act. What we saw in action was that when the free ride was cut off, people stepped up to the plate and found jobs.

    While in other countries it may not be so, in the US opportunities abound. I meet so many people that started with nothing and by making the right choices and working hard have done quite well. I also see many, many who are in the position they are in because of their own foolish choices. I am fine with giving a helping hand, but I am not fine with putting healthy and able people on a long term handout.

    There is a lot of room for cutting the budget, both in welfare and waste.

    You also seem a little inconsistent unless I misunderstand. On the one hand the US is in so much trouble because of its deficit and debt. It is fine to give billions to the "poor". Yet it is bad to give billions to corporations who can use the money to turn around and create jobs.

    I am not for personal or corporate welfare, but I find it interesting you seem (unless I misunderstand) to support one and reject the other.

    As for waste, I heard once that there is probably at least 25% waste in the government budgets at every level. Cutting half of that waste would go a long way.

     
  • At 4:57 PM, Blogger All_I_Can_Stands said…

    Just to make clear, I am against corporate welfare. Even governments need to purchase things. I don't see "Defense" as corporate welfare unless they manufacture a war to justify the spending. Of course I know that is what you believe happened.

    Anyway,

    You still haven't got your head around the debt.

    With the debt being this serious, isn't it time for the government to get out of every non-essential spending area in order to get a handle on it? (welfare, subsidies, grants, arts, etc.) I mean if the country is going to crumble under the debt that is pretty serious. Shouldn't we put survival above socialist endeavors?

     
  • At 12:37 AM, Blogger All_I_Can_Stands said…

    The waste in the defence budget could keep several small nations afloat.

    Since the military is a bureaucracy like any other government agency I would agree that they too must have a sizable waste problem. Same with those agencies that run education, medicare, medicaid, welfare, transportation, etc. As a whole I am sure the US wastes more than the GDP of almost any other country.

     

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