The Logic Lifeline

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Saturday, September 16, 2006

Sometimes a friend has to tell us we are embarrasing ourselves

At times in life we focus on one point so much we lose sight of everything else. During these times our behavior may become a little askew, grasping onto that one point like a pit-bull and are unwilling to let it go. In these times of obsession we need a friend to step in and tell us we are embarrassing ourselves and to help us return to the light of normal behavior.

While I try not to be critical of the religion or faith of others (except when discussing one on one the merits of each of our perspectives) I keep observing the actions of those who live in Muslim countries and wonder when somebody from within is going to step up to the plate and ask if this is truly the image they want to portray. While there have been legitimate times of anger, the image of these people boiling over in outrage at the slightest word of offence is truly getting old.

The two outstanding events are the cartoon outrage and now the Pope comment outrage. It seems at the slightest provocation, they take to the streets and work themselves up into a rage. Sometimes it is simply protest and shouting; other times it is serious threats; sometimes it boils into violence. Michelle Malkin said it best by wondering if Islam is the Religion of Perpetual Outrage. Is this the image that is desired? I do not claim that they should be silent when events are offensive to them. I speak out all of the time on this blog when events offend me. To address the issues in a more civilized manner is surely more effective than flying off the handle every other day. There may be a time where a protest of outrage is appropriate, but if this is the only tool in your arsenal it quickly becomes ineffective. It soon makes you an object of ridicule.

In the US, Christians are habitually subjected to offensive speech and actions; often times being the butt of many jokes. While some is deserved, most of this is based in a completely inaccurate view of what a Christian is. Sometimes it is based on an accurate view of what a Christian is, but based in hatred of such. Sometimes it spills over into direct sacrilege and blasphemy against God. While I might speak out against such things, or write to sponsors expressing my disagreement; my view is that my God is able to avenge Himself of offenses against Him. He does not need me to stick up for Him. I can only think of one instance where somebody in the Bible felt the need to "defend" God: Peter took his sword and cut off the ear of a priest to keep them from taking Jesus. Instead of commending Peter, Jesus told him to put away his sword and then healed the priest's ear.

I have stated before that there is a need within Islam to condemn such terrible acts as September 11th, suicide bombers, beheading innocent hostages, forcing conversions at gunpoint, and targeting civilians with rockets. I think also there needs to be those to stand up and lead the people to a better image than what we see in these pictures.


  • At 1:32 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Its funny that you say those images are getting old. They are stock photos, dummy. I've seen those pictures each at least one other time...
    This is a propoganda tool like showing pictures of Arabs celebrating on 9/11 as though it were in real-time.

  • At 3:46 PM, Blogger All_I_Can_Stands said…

    Anonymous, the context of my post should have made it obvious I was not making a claim these pictures are fresh. These events and the reactions pictured happened over time. The reaction is always similar - outrage.

  • At 8:10 PM, Anonymous FKAB said…

    I couldn't agree more, AICS.

    It really angers me that these stupid Muslims (for lack of a better term) will take to the streets, shouting like complete savages and burning things to the ground, supposedly to DEFEND their religion.

    Every time I see something like this in the news, I thank the guys who established my country for freedom of religion. Because I seriously cannot comprehend the mindset of these people who want to spread their "peaceful" religion by force and violence.

    Dissent is not tolerated.

    Diversity is evil.

    Infidels must die.

    This should act as a model for what we should NOT look for in a peaceful religion.

  • At 2:17 PM, Anonymous god said…

    Malkin is one to talk about the Religion of Perpetual Outrage, and it sounds like fkab is suddenly outraged too about those "stupid Muslims" and conveniently fogetting that the Crusades were a very violent way to spread Christianity. Spreading Christianity one of Bush's subtexts to invading Iraq too and that's also been extremely violent. It's funny you haven't endured enough supposed Christian outrage from the Malkin and O'Reilly types about things like "The War on Christmas" and gay marriage, which eats up hundreds of hours of media coverage every year, to keep you from posting drivel like this.

    You've just embarassed yourself.

  • At 4:12 PM, Blogger All_I_Can_Stands said…


    In my post I made it clear that the outrage I was describing was not simply using your freedom of speech to condemn a perceived wrong. It is much different than the fist shaking, street marching, threat spewing actions I describe.

    As for the Christian Crusades, I would be the first to condemn any kind of forced conversion. The crusades and the Spanish Inquisition are just 2 examples of a major blot on Christian history. I am confident that Michelle Malkin would agree as well. My comments are about what people are doing now. The fact is that Christians for the most part have moved away from forced conversion and Islam still remains there.

    I think we know who embarrassed themself here.

  • At 8:35 PM, Anonymous FK said…


    Wow! You really DO exist!!

    Stupid Muslims: Anyone who firebombs some churches just because some old man offended your religion is nothing but a complete and utter moron.

    I agree. And, despite yourself, I am familiar with the Crusades -- learning all about the history of the Christian religion is somewhat of a hobby of mine.

    Seriously god. Your assessment of Fox News and its obsession with boring non-issues like gay marriage and christmas is absolutely correct, but I don't know how you can defend Islamic extremists.

  • At 8:36 PM, Anonymous FKAB said…

    AAAHH!! That last thing was from me, FKAB. I must have just typed in 'FK' and pressed enter. Silly me.

  • At 11:32 AM, Blogger SkyePuppy said…


    You're "conveniently forgetting" that the Crusades were a response to the violent takeover of the Holy Land, where Jews and Christians were killed or subjugated. The Crusades began as a way of liberating the Holy Land from Muslim violence, a need that has not changed a bit over the centuries.

  • At 8:20 PM, Anonymous FKAB said…

    The Crusades began as a way of liberating the Holy Land from Muslim violence, a need that has not changed a bit over the centuries.

    That's the same excuse they used.

    Look, Skye, it was a war based on perceived notions of divine right. There can be no justification for religious war ever, and that is precisely what the crusades were.

    Don't revise history just because the truth is inconvenient.


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